Nope, as we've discovered in another thread (no clue which one
My perspective is, I strongly suspect, different. I use X11 with headless Pi and a remote X server. Waypipe doesn't cut it. So, yeah, complete removal of support for X will be a major PITA.
) you and I both use the same model of running X11 apps on some system and displayed on an XServer on the monitor in front of us. We probably launch those apps differently and use different X servers, though the end result is the same.And I agree with you 100% that complete removal of X support would be a major PITA.
I see this as two different situations, for the two IMGS ("with desktop" and "Lite").I think the future of X depends on how much of a headache it will become. If it takes little to no effort to keep it working, then great. But if we see bug reports that say "this works under labwc, but not under X", I think the effort spent to trying to fix that kind of thing will greatly reduce. That most likely to affect things like chromium and vlc.
I think it's more of a "wait and see" situation and we'll find out after a Trixie release has been out for a while.
I don't see the ability to run X11 applications over SSH going away.
For "Lite" systems, presumably the X11 bits will ship as long as Debian continues to ship them. There shouldn't be any RPL headaches bc of this, just as there are no headaches with most of the bazillion Debian packages that are available in RasPiOS Lite. This effectively solves my problem, thagrol's problem (maybe/probably?), and enables people to build up X11 desktops if they want.
For "with desktop" systems, the situation is a bit different, and I could understand how support in this scenario could become problematic over time, but even if it crosses the support pain threshold, removing X11 desktops from "with desktop" systems won't force removal of X11 from the Debian apt servers.
I assume @ShiftPlusOne is referring to headaches supporting X11 desktops on "with desktop" IMGs. This is what I meant in my earlier post, but obviously wasn't sufficiently clear.
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